An Interview With Comedian Jen Kirkman (articles)

“Acceptable TV” ran for exactly one season on VH1 last spring. During its time on the air, it managed to be somehow hilarious and fresh, despite (or because) of it’s mini-episodes within the show.
One of the players on the program was the terrific and hilarious Jen Kirkman. The following is the lengthy version of an article I wrote for the campus paper here in St. Cloud. She supplied a boatload of great answers and insights into the show and the life of a comedian, so I thought it was worthy of an uncut “Q&A”:
Q: How did you end up on the show
A:The short answer is that I went in for an interview with Dan Harmon and then that night he and this other guy who is sort of the mouthpiece for Jack Black’s company came to see my one woman show and then I found out the next day that they wanted me to be “the smurfette” as they put it – in their pilot. And the way they knew about me was that a lot of the writers on the show and I have mutual friends – those mutual friends recommended me, and a few of the writers had seen my stand-up…”“…I got the feeling that their search was for someone who understood what Channel 101 was all about – someone who would not be annoying on set (by the way, I and the rest of the cast are all shit-eatingly annoying but I mean in the Hollywood actress-y way – no room for a diva) and I think they wanted someone who understood what it is/was to be/have been a nerd. We’re all from different segments of the nerd population but I think my one-woman show that I just happened to be doing around the time of my casting, “Dork Days” definitely helped.”
Anyway, we shot the pilot last year, between March and July of 2006 and found out in September of 2006 that we were picked up and then I quit my job. We didn’t start shooting until February of 2007.
That was supposed to be the short answer. The long answer I guess is that one of Dan’s associates had emailed me out of the blue wanting to know if I was interested in coming in and meeting. I was familiar with Channel 101 and the names that she was throwing around but I was working a corporate day job at the time – and since my show business involvement usually was just a one day shoot, I had to hold on to this job to make money, so I was (stupidly) reluctant to meet up at first, thinking that this opportunity would somehow get me fired from my job (for taking too much time off) and then the show wouldn’t get picked up anyway and then I’d be homeless. Looking back, that was possibly the stupidest and most dangerous attitude, but after years of nothing working out, I can’t blame myself for being entirely skeptical. Until I met with Dan and realized that this project was totally on the up and up and was being handled with such belief and passion that it was infectious. What I mean, is that I contracted a disease from that initial meeting. It’s fine now. The wonders of antibiotics. I’m going to stop trying to be funny. I hate un-funny interview answers so I’m going to just stay serious and tangential because that seems to be what I do.
Q:Is it a high-pressure environment for everybody, what with a new episode being due every week?
A:It’s not high-pressure for me. I only have to work a couple days a week and I’m not one of the writers so if a second episode of a pilot/sketch is voted back, my only job is to get the script, show up, get my hair and make-up done and act it up. Easy. It’s way high-pressure for everyone else, especially those in post-production, who only have about 2-3 days to get it all done. The animation department are pulling all-nighters multiple times a week.
Q:Are the sketches filmed every week, or is there a stockpile of sketches stored up?
A:Which brings me to this answer…we filmed about 24 sketches in advance, one a day, four days a week in February and March. This way the only new sketches we have to film in short notice, are the two that are voted back after the Friday night broadcast. We also have in the can, tons of animated pilots, but we haven’t been able to air any of them because Mr. Sprinkles is such a runaway hit – it’s on episode 6, which is also why the animators are working around the clock.
Q:are there any sketches that don’t make it onto the TV?
A:Yeah, there were a few that are going to be cut and replaced, I think. Unfortunately, America will most likely not see me in a fat suit (one of the sketches we filmed.) Mainly if something gets cut – it’s not a situation where Vh1 cans it – I think it’s more like a few things, once executed just don’t work, or don’t turn out that funny as they were in the script.
Q:Does VH1 “like” the show? Are they behind it?
A:Who knows what people like when you’re talking about a network? Which is why I assume you put “like” in quotes. I feel like I’m treading thin ice here so I’ll just say that everyone at Vh1 is rooting for it because it certainly raises the bar for them and helps take away from the stereotype that they only have exploitive and (possibly racist?) reality tv shows. There was a NY Times article recently about this and the powers that be at Vh1 were happy to point out that Acceptable TV exists – in a sea of things like “I Love NY.” Although I’m sure “New York’s” ratings are bigger. As for acting like they are behind it, there wasn’t much promotion for the show. I don’t think it was neglected in the promo sense due to some trepidation but just that since a big part of our show involves the web, I think there is expectation that the viral craze will just blow up and serve as promotion on it’s own. Did that happen? I don’t know. Luckily, I don’t have to work on the corporate side and worry about that crap.
Q:Has there been any word as to whether it’s considered successful yet (somehow I feel this is worded poorly)?
A:The website activity has exceeded expectation and Ira Glass wrote some really nice things about our show and the professional blog-world likes us, and all that sort of thing…some of the early reviews were lukewarm but as for successful in the cult status sense…I guess we’ll learn that in time.
Q:What are the possibilities of it being picked up for another season?
A:Who knows? It all depends on ratings, budget and what people are willing to agree to on both ends. I’m staying out of it because you hear different things every day.
Again, I apologize that these answers aren’t funny. My boyfriend just peaked over my shoulder to ask what I was doing (not in a dick-ish way) and he said, “Oh! I hope you’re writing funny answers!” And like I just said to him, only some people get to see my idiot goofball side – I can’t really just turn it on. I’m serious a lot of the time but not mature. If that makes sense.
Q:How do you feel about the interactive component? Is it something that excites you, what with it opening new arenas to amateurs?
A:Honestly? I don’t get thrilled about it one way or another. I suppose without the environment where anyone can submit, there wouldn’t have been a Channel 101 and Dan never would have found the amazing writers and directors that make Acceptable TV what it is, which gives me a job. BUT, you know I spend my days like a homeless person or a wild animal or neither, scrounging for the next thing so I’m often really self-focused on keeping work alive, so I’m not excited nor non-excited about opening up arenas.
Q:Do you and the other staff members hang out after a tough shoot (or just a normal one)?
A:Before filming I envisioned us in montages of various bars, amusement parks and hair salons, hanging out and living life together, in our own 12 person family at the expense of everything else in our lives. But the reality is that after a 14 hour day, I’m exhausted from all the laughing, farting, screaming, teasing, running around, sexual innuendo, throwing things, etc. that I have nothing left in me. It’s like any job where you see your co-workers more than your family and significant others and friends due to how much time you spend at work…so sometimes I just want to go be alone or something after work. I usually just go home and fall asleep so I can be up by 6 a.m. again the next day. We eat lunch together every day on set, it feels like a big day of recess. I’m always so tired when I get home – it’s the feeling you get when you spend the day at the beach and in the sun and you just get tired early but in a happy way. We do all get together every Friday night to watch the show – which is our nerdy little awesome ritual. The cast and the crew and the production side, everyone. We all get along really well and are super proud of the show – so we get together at the DP’s house and celebrate. And then during the weekends I think the writers are around each other more – finalizing the new scripts and occasionally I just text stupid messages to my other cast members when I’m bored. But I love everyone so much. I’m always hugging them and pinching their cheeks and just thinking they are all so adorable and so perfectly themselves at all times. I can’t stop laughing at everyone and reveling in their individual awesome-ness. We’re always really happy to see one another every morning and we’re very touchey feely and I love watching the boys jump in the make-up chair and get excited about the airbrushed make-up that’s applied to their faces.
Q:How do you like the amateur shorts that have been popping up on the show?
A:I think they’ve been great. Some of those people I know from around the comedy scene in L.A. but that is not how their shorts were chosen. They won out because they stuck to the rules and were hilarious.
Q:How did you like being the face of acceptable tv when it was being promoted before its premiere? (you were all over the tv)
A:I didn’t think about it either way. I actually didn’t see the promo’s – but I remember shooting them but when I was shooting them I wasn’t sure if they were going to be used on the web or on TV – so I’m still not sure what people saw, where. I was a little weirded out by it because I was afraid I’d get teased on the set, since I’m not the star of the show but part of an ensemble.
Q:Has the show gained you any new recognition?
A:Maybe I shouldn’t say this but I don’t think so! I did kind of expect a flood of Myspace friends but nothing too crazy. I have yet to have someone recognize me. Sadly, there is a huge plasma TV at my gym that is always set to Vh1 – and I’ve been working out when a repeat of the show has been on and the person on the treadmill next to me doesn’t even recognize me. I’ve been in a coffee shop, ordering a coffee, at a place where they have a plasma TV on the wall, set to vh1. I’ll be ordering the coffee while I’m on TV at the same time and still the patrons or counter person don’t recognize me. Some guy came up to me at a comedy show and said, “My friend loves you on Acceptable TV.” I said, “Wow, that’s cool.” And he said, “Well, he’s an alcoholic who doesn’t leave the house ever, because he’s too drunk to drive.”
I know I sound negative but I also live in Los Angeles, where everyone is on TV almost and most people don’t recognize each other and we can’t tell when we’re watching TV or looking out our windows. I have had some creepy guys from college email me “out of the blue” and not say why I suddenly came to mind, but I suspect it’s from the show. And friends from high school have written to say that they saw me on TV.
Q:Have you been doing stand-up much since it premiered? Do you notice an increase in audience?
A:I haven’t been doing much stand-up and it’s partially because of the early hours I have to keep to do this show, partly because I’m taking a conscious break while I come up with some new material. There is no increase in audience. I think I actually have a little stand-up following and before the show, I noticed suddenly that when I did shows, people were showing up to see me that were not just friends who owed me favors – that was pretty cool.
Q:How is your CD selling?
A:I want it to be selling more! Again, I’m amazed at what I call “the random people” that have got off their asses to buy it. And surprisingly, people are saying ridiculously complimentary things about the album. I’m hoping people aren’t burning copies for people because if I’m ever going to overtake Carlos Mencia and Dane Cook, I have to do it through people actually purchasing my work. My friends like to remind me that they are “excited for my album to come out” and I’m sort of over, the awkward moment when I have to say, “It is out. I have a copy on me right now. It’s $10.” And then there is an awkward pause.
Q:Is there any questions I didn’t ask that you’d like to answer?
A:Well, as I’m typing this my boyfriend and I are watching a repeat of the Soprano’s on A&E and I was just pointing out that most people don’t faint when they have a panic attack, a la Tony Soprano and his son. I have panic disorder and fainting during an attack would be a relief but it’s a more hellish experience than fainting. But I love that panic attacks are a part of this show.
Q:Any closing thoughts?
A:Acceptable TV is really funny and everyone should watch it and then they should support all upcoming and future projects from all the cast members of the show. And everyone try to use energy efficient light bulbs – I just replaced all regular light bulbs in my house.
For more information on Dr. Kirkman, check out her blogs either at “You’re In My Neighborhood” or myspace.com/jenkirkman .





